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Post Space: 1999
on: April 19, 2012, 23:37
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I notice some kind soul has loaded these old episodes up on YouTube. I dreaded to look at them for fear they hadn't held up as well as my memory of them, but I was actually pretty surprised. Season One (the only one I cared for) held up better than early episodes of TNG, for example.

Once you get used to the sloooo-ooow pace--exacerbated by the fact that everyone seems to whisper their lines--the formula starts to gel and the stories start to come to life. They're a bit of a fusion of 2001: A Space Odyssey with Outer Limits and Twilight Zone dashed in. Definitely NOT the glitzy actioners of the ST franchise.

The Eagle was always a gem of a ship, and after generations of Star Trek and Star Wars designs, the Eagle seems refreshingly plausible as a vessel. (Long ago, I used to have the Dinky Eagle model... wish I still did.) Their science officer has the ballsy audacity to say "I don't know" when asked a question for which there can be no easy answer. And the aliens are genuinely moody and, at least from what I've seen, operate from some higher ethos.

From the four or five episodes I've seen, nothing really cringeworthy (except, y'know, the whole premise of the moon being blasted into interstellar velocities).

Refreshing.

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Post Re: Space: 1999
on: April 20, 2012, 00:24
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I remember liking it as a kid. I watched a few recently, but they were from the regrettable second season.

Whatever happens with the allegedly-forthcoming Space:2099, they should not change the Eagles.

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Post Re: Space: 1999
on: April 20, 2012, 06:13
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All you really need to know about season 2 is that they brought in Fred Freiberger to run things. He'd learned a lot. It makes season 3 of Star Trek look like Shakespeare.

But the Eagles were very cool.

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Post Re: Space: 1999
on: April 20, 2012, 15:37
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Eagle Four at the SF Airshow:

http://www.scifiairshow.com/ships-eagle4.html

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Post Re: Space: 1999
on: April 20, 2012, 23:32
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Space:1999 held my attention at the time and I still like a lot of the music from it. The last time I saw it - late 90s or early 00s - some episodes seemed a little better than I remembered and some seemed worse. For a remake, I see two possibilities - either approach it as they did the BSG remake or turn it over to J.J. and company and let them jazz it up with lens-flairs and a faster pace of explosions engulfing the pretty things.

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Post Re: Space: 1999
on: April 21, 2012, 11:04
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I still love "Space:1999" ( particularly year one ). Oddly enough I was listening to the year one soundtrack when I came upon this topic! Even as a kid, I saw the flaws. Often the dialogue and acting is awkward, the plots are occasionally vague or unresolved, and there's more fantasy than fiction in the science. Despite these shortcomings, it's still one of my all time favorites. There's just a look and a feel about it that still appeals to me.

As a kid in the space fiction desert of the '70s ( pre 'Star Wars' ) I lapped it up. Even year two, which was such a change and quite disappointing to me at the time. Freiberger came in and made his bold alterations which took the show from an atmospheric gothic SF horror series to a much more pedestrian and juvenile action show. Still, I enjoy that year ( mostly...except for the real head-shakers ) for what it is. But the first year just had a whole mood and feel that the entire second year lacked. I loved the art direction in the series, particularly that of Moonbase Alpha and especially the Eagles. To show how much I still love the show, here is a link to some pix of my 'geek room' ( which has actually come along even further since these pictures were taken. Particularly note the second one, and if you look carefully at numbers four and six, you can spot few other related items. Hopefully this link will work:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.404699213459.182075.644133459&type=3&l=bff598fe6a

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Post Re: Space: 1999
on: April 21, 2012, 12:09
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Freiberger came in and made his bold alterations which took the show from an atmospheric gothic SF horror series to a much more pedestrian and juvenile action show. Still, I enjoy that year ( mostly...except for the real head-shakers ) for what it is. But the first year just had a whole mood and feel that the entire second year lacked.

Victor Bergman-- He rocked. Even to my young eyes, he seemed like what a real scientist should be--skeptical, curious, humble about the unknown, cautious to make declaratives outside of his field. Once he was gone, the oxygen went out of the airlock.

Watching recently, I was struck by how closely Season One adhered to its "near future" limits--not a lot of high tech gadgets and gizmos. I noticed when the actors wandered outside the Moonbase they took some pains to act as if they were operating in a low gravity environment (which makes the fact that they don't inside the Moonbase a little silly, I suppose).

Attempts at a certain gritty realism, but realize: This was several years before Star Wars blew the doors off the era standard, 2001: A Space Odyssey, and the plodding morality plays of '70s sci-fi.

I like your geek room, dep1701.

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Post Re: Space: 1999
on: April 21, 2012, 15:51
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"Victor Bergman-- He rocked. Even to my young eyes, he seemed like what a real scientist should be--skeptical, curious, humble about the unknown, cautious to make declaratives outside of his field. Once he was gone, the oxygen went out of the airlock."

I also am a big Bergman fan. I got to meet Barry Morse three times at conventions before his passing. A fascinating man, I could listen to him talk for hours ( and he could! ). Got to have a couple of impromptu chat sessions with him between scheduled events in Tampa one year. The first was when I was heading for the men's room, and saw him in a corridor searching for something. Turns out he was looking for it as well. I guided him there and we proceeded to take care of business. Now, I'm not much of a restroom chatter, but he started up a conversation while we were standing there side by side, and if Barry Morse wanted to chat in the men's room, by god, I was gonna chat. I kept thinking, I can't believe I'm standing here having a whiz with Professor Bergman!

The second time was later that evening at an 'ice cream social / charity auction' after the auction. As the organizers were setting up a video, most folks were milling about the room looking at the various items. I was a bit tired and was sitting alone in a row of chairs when Mr. Morse came along and sat beside me. We started chatting about various medications we were on, and the benefits of a glass of wine and so on. Fortunately, someone snapped a candid photo of the moment and emailed it to me. Such a lovely little moment I will always cherish.

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Post Re: Space: 1999
on: April 21, 2012, 15:57
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"I like your geek room, dep1701."

Thanks so much. As I said before, It's come along a lot more since I took those photos. Unfortunately, our camera stopped communicating with our computer so I can't update photos right now. I've put up more shelves, hung up more toys and framed and hung some artwork like this model of Alpha ( see attached ).

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Post Re: Space: 1999
on: April 21, 2012, 16:01
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Post Re: Space: 1999
on: December 27, 2012, 17:52
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Some sad news for fans of this series. I have learned that Gerry Anderson, who created "Space:1999" as well as "Thunderbirds","Captain Scarlet", "UFO", "Joe90", "Space Precinct","Supercar" and other popular British series has passed away at 83. He was suffering from Alzheimers for the last couple of years and was living, by his own decision, in a care facility.

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