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bobsandieg-
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Post Time Tunnel Rewatch
on: April 11, 2012, 09:14
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Guys and Gals;
I made an attempt at a rematch sort of post myself. I'd like feedback on how well you thought it came off.
It's for the pilot episode of the tv show The Time Tunnel.
http://www.robertmitchellevans.com/2012/04/11/the-time-tunnel-rewatch-rendezvous-with-yesterday/

The show is available on HULU if you want to watch it.

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Post Re: Time Tunnel Rewatch
on: April 11, 2012, 23:21
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No Hulu here in the Grating White North, I'm afraid. :/

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Post Re: Time Tunnel Rewatch
on: April 12, 2012, 10:19
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You did a great job! I can't say I'm compelled to watch the show given your review, but it is funny that James Cameron seems to have done a much better job with historical accuracy than these clowns did.

Time travel is one of my favorite science fictional tools, but it bothers me that characters frequently refuse to contemplate consequences. If the <i>Titanic</i> had made it across the ocean, I'm betting those additional 1500 people or so would have changed history a great deal, particularly since there were so many bajillionaires onboard.

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Post Re: Time Tunnel Rewatch
on: April 12, 2012, 10:26
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Funny you should mention that, Torie; Supernatural did an episode where one of the three Fates got angry after someone undid the sinking of Titanic (because they'd messed up history so much - pleasingly because of a very admirable deep and abiding hatred of the music of Celine Dion), and went around killing the 50000-or-so descendants the survivors had.

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Post Re: Time Tunnel Rewatch
on: April 15, 2012, 09:28
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Bob, I finally took a moment to procrastinate on some other work and read your review. Great job! It's been a long time since I saw this episode, but your recap was entertaining and reminded me clearly of the plot--and of course, you make excellent points.

Aside from the many historical inaccuracies, I enjoyed the show, although I think I only made it through half of the series. I keep meaning to finish watching it. I secured some VHS copies of Japanese laserdiscs way back when, and was working my way through those. I have a weakness for time travel stories, and especially the show Quantum Leap, which is all about changing the past. Obviously there's a lot of suspension of disbelief involved in watching Time Tunnel, as with any Irwin Allen production, but I have to say it was a lot of fun.

And Caitie, thanks for the reminder about that Supernatural episode! They've done some interesting things with time travel on that show. Damn angels.

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Post Re: Time Tunnel Rewatch
on: April 15, 2012, 09:30
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And I just realized that the episode title, "Rendezvous With Yesterday," sounds like it could be a Star Trek episode :)

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Post Re: Time Tunnel Rewatch
on: April 15, 2012, 11:33
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Torie I don't find it so surprising that Cameron has so much history and technical details right. The man is know for having a passion about details that is well suited to someone who majored in physics. Cameron is not even a terrible writer, he is just a mediocre one. If <i>Titanic</i> has not been lost oh history would have been radically different I am sure. Not only were some of the worlds wealthiest people lost (and can you imagine todays' billions standing aside to die while that let women and children off first?) but the president lost his national security advisers on that ship. There's also a cultural change that occurred because of the foundering of the ship, the great victorian idea that man was fully the master of the universe was smashed 100 years ago today.

@ Eugene You should finished the series, it is campy fun. Did you get as far as 'the most evil man in all of history?' It wasn't Stalin or Hitler, or Khan, but an Italian philosopher.
@ Caties Sorry you don't have the HULU, but on the bright side you do have healthcare. :)

p.s. Torie & Eugene, thanks for the compliments. Humorous writing is something I think I do very poorly, so I'm please that this didn;t suck. :)

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Post Re: Time Tunnel Rewatch
on: April 16, 2012, 10:05
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CatieCat: I've stopped watching Supernatural after season 5 (one of the things I admired most about the show was Kripke's determination to stick with only 5 seasons) but now I'm going to have to watch it again, just for that episode about Titanic.

Oh and Bob, well done. I've never heard of Time Tunnel and now I'm kinda curious. A little bit. Or maybe I'll just enjoy your posts.

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Post Re: Time Tunnel Rewatch
on: April 16, 2012, 15:27
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Bob, now that I look at the episode guide, I may have only made it through the first seven episodes, so I don't think I've seen that one. I'll definitely revisit the series. As much as I like rigorous time travel stories that are historically accurate, I can also enjoy ridiculous, impossible stories where people just have fun visiting the past.

And believe me, humorous writing doesn't come easily to me either, and I have agonized over many of these rewatch posts... Are you going to do more posts, or was this a one-shot to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the Titanic?

Toryx, my wife and I have been enjoying the last two seasons of Supernatural. Overall the premise still works and the characters are fun, even if the big plot arc each season is a bit anticlimactic after the threat of an apocalypse. It would have been best if the show had ended on a high note where Kripke intended it, but hey, he started out not wanting to include any angels, so sometimes things work out well anyway.

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Post Re: Time Tunnel Rewatch
on: April 16, 2012, 18:59
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@Toryx -- since you can watch it for free on HULU I'ds say git it a go, but have some wine ready because it's quite cheesy.
@ Eugene - I wish thinking of continuing, perhaps doing episode two, 'Rocket to the Moon,' this weds.

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Post Re: Time Tunnel Rewatch
on: April 18, 2012, 01:06
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Well, foolish person that I am here's the link to my next Time Tunnel rematch http://www.robertmitchellevans.com/?p=3187

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Post Re: Time Tunnel Rewatch
on: April 20, 2012, 10:05
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Yeah, I've been enjoying SPN a lot more than I expected this season. I think they got a little wobbly in the sixth season, but they've steadied the ship pretty well this season, and they've all but officially renewed for next. My concern there is that Sera Gamble is leaving as co-showrunner (Bob Singer's staying on), and...oh, can't remember his name now, but he wrote some scripts in S3 and S4, he's coming on as co-sr.

Their rate of hits to misses has dropped a bit, IMO, but it's still pretty watchable. I need to get back to my rewatch buffer, I only want four more shows in the bag before I'm willing to start posting. :)

Of course, NOW I'm watching and rewatching and rewatching the new series from the makers of Avatar: The Last Airbender. [i]The Legend of Korra{/i}, set in the same world seventy years on, and with so far all the great stuff from the first one polished up and given back to us in an even better way.

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Post Re: Time Tunnel Rewatch
on: April 20, 2012, 10:17
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Quote from CaitieCat on April 20, 2012, 10:05
My concern there is that Sera Gamble is leaving as co-showrunner (Bob Singer's staying on), and...oh, can't remember his name now, but he wrote some scripts in S3 and S4, he's coming on as co-sr.

Tim Minear? Ben Edlund? They are both awesome.

I just finished Avatar last week, and the first two episodes of Korra are waiting for me on my netbook. Hopefully I can watch them this weekend! Since there's no new Supernatural.

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Post Re: Time Tunnel Rewatch
on: April 20, 2012, 14:26
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I think what distinguishes Irwin Allen’s stuff is he knows how to sell a compelling pilot to get the network slot. Then everything slides to absolute nonsense and mayhem shortly thereafter.

Who could watch the first 20 minutes of Time Tunnel and not be intrigued by the Forbidden Planet sets, the mission, the manner in which the predicament is set in motion? Later on, meh.

The outlandish flaw in TT is that, for a show dedicated to the concept of time travel, nothing these characters do seems to change history one iota. And for all their bumbling around in time, no one seems particularly interested in data capture of the history that unfolds.

The only really good absorbing ep I recall is where they stumble on a Soviet time tunnel that was built earlier. That was intriguing, and a fun allegory to Sputnik.

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But getting back to Unca Irwin: He sold some great shows followed by crap scripts.

Those first few episodes of Lost In Space, the first half season, are just as moody and mysterious as anything on Outer Limits. Voyage to the Bottom of the Ratings, same. Things went to hell in a handbasket a lot faster with Land of the Giants, but I suspect Unca Irwin had the network rip-off formula down a bit better by then.

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Post Re: Time Tunnel Rewatch
on: April 20, 2012, 18:29
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That's an interesting point about the arc of most Irwin Allen shows. Lost in Space was really dark and Dr. Smith was seriously menacing at first. He was an evil enemy agent and the only thing that kept him from simply shooting everybody was that he needed them to get home. But as the show devolved into campy comedy/monster of the week, he transformed right along with it. From dark and brooding to "Oh, Will! I didn't mean to sell Penny to the space toads!" in less than a dozen episodes. A bit of a waste for a fine actor like Jonathan Harris, but I actually have a soft spot for LiS because it was fun and they didn't take themselves too seriously. That may have been the problem with Voyage. Trying to take yourself seriously while fighting a guy in a rubber crab suit just isn't going to work.

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Post Re: Time Tunnel Rewatch
on: April 20, 2012, 20:31
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For a gem of a Lost In Space episode, see The Hungry Sea.

Not only is it a great sci-fi adventure for the Robinson Family, but you can actually see the transformation in Smith as he realizes his utility as a continuing member of the party is doomed unless he modulates his behavior. My understanding is this is exactly the calculation of Jonathan Harris in assessing his long term presence on the cast: A homicidal Agent Smith, plotting the betrayal and deaths of this family at every opportunity, could not long endure; a more sunny, cowering Uncle Smith might have a chance at second season of paychecks.

This show comes right out of the pilot, where there was no Smith or Robot, hence the artifice of the narrative that sends the family out to explore their world while the nefarious duo suffer one another back at base.

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Post Re: Time Tunnel Rewatch
on: April 21, 2012, 00:08
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On Lost In Space. Lemnoc, you are correct. Jonathan Harris said that about his character in an interview - I think it was in the special The Fantasy Worlds of Irwin Allen. Another fun detail given in that special was that the Registry Number on the Space Pod was the phone number to Irwin's office.

The series did have some good (to me) episodes like "The Haunted Lighthouse" "My Friend, Mr. Nobody" and "A Visit to a Hostile Planet" but it also had some crazy things like "A Trip Through the Robot" and "The Great Vegetable Rebellion." As I've said before, I can only take Lost In Space in small doses these days.

On Time Tunnel. I watched all the episodes when they first aired but I've never felt the desire to watch the series again. I think I enjoyed (when it first ran) Voyagers! more than Time Tunnel but I've not been able to make it all the way through that one again after getting it on DVD. On the other hand. I'm always ready to see Time Bandits again.

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Post Re: Time Tunnel Rewatch
on: April 24, 2012, 13:18
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I go away to Vegas for a few days and this threads explodesd! LOL
If you watch the credits for Lost In Space Jonathan Harris is always billed as a guest star. My undertsanding is that it was the intention that Dr Smoth would not be a regular character but that Harris began playing to his strengths - comedy in order to strecth out the role and the character became so popular he lasted all three seasons.

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